How can the Holy Spirit not be in some people? Unity of the Spirit vs. Athanasian Creed

How can the Holy Spirit not be in some people? Unity of the Spirit vs. Athanasian Creed

Unity notes  click here:  UNITY – The Supernal Nature (Godhead) of Yahweh is a Unity, not a Trinity:  Dr Terry Welsh. Dean IDMR Lansing.

From IDMR Lansing Youtube video on April 19, 2015


Yahweh as Pure Spirit is the substance in everyone and everything.  Yahweh as Elohim is the spirit of animation in every body to which he gives life.  Yahweh as Yahshua (operating in his capacity or role as the Holy Spirit) is in every soul to whom he gives eternal life (John 17:2); that is to those who believe and receive him.
Yahweh Elohim is Yahweh in part, not in totality.  He is in the bosom of the Father and the Father is greater than he is (John 10:29 John 14:28); that is greater in magnitude like the quantity of water in the ocean is greater than in the cup.  All of Yahweh’s attributes are in Elohim, but only part of Yahweh’s total substance is in Elohim while part of it is not in him.  There is plenty of substance (Yahweh or pure spirit) left over just as there was plenty of substance left over that was not in the tabernacle.
Likewise, Yahshua is Yahweh Elohim in part, not in totality (Elohim v1 pg 28, 79,80).  To illustrate: consider a room full of invisible water vapor representing Yahweh as pure spirit.  Within that room (in the bosom or center) there can be a cold glass (an embodiment) in which a small part of the water vapor condenses representing Elohim.  Furthermore, if the glass is cold, ice representing Yahshua, can form on the surface of the water from a small portion of that water.  There is plenty of water vapor left over and plenty of liquid water left over that did not come down into the lower state of ice.  So water vapor can be in something without liquid water being there and liquid water can be in something without ice being there.  But in all 3 cases, the same substance, water, is there.
From this example, you can see that Yahweh (Pure Spirit) can exist in something, like a rock, or in someone, like Satan, without Yahshua (Holy Spirit) being there.
Yahweh is All in All, so Yahweh is in everything and everyone since he is the source and the substance of all things.  Yahweh has the potential to become Yahshua in anyone he wills to save.  Yahweh will be what(ever) he wills to be and Yahshua is that part of Yahweh who willed to be salvation.  But until he actually carries out or fulfills this will in someone, Yahweh is not in that person as Yahshua, the Holy Spirit.
Once Yahshua is in a person, the person is saved; he has eternal life and he will not suffer the wrath of Yahweh or the Lake of Fire.  But the stubborn goats on Yahshua’s left hand will suffer eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels (Matthew 25:31-34, 41).
Would Yahweh torment those with his Holy Spirit?  Certainly not!  If he did, the Holy Spirit would be meaningless, vain and ineffective as “salvation” or Yahshua.  There is only 1 spirit (substance) but there are innumerable spirits (beings) since all angels are ministering spirits (Psalm 104:4, Hebrews 1:7-8,13-14, and Hebrews 12:9,22) including fallen angels or demons who possess souls and incarnate in their bodies.

Comments: 1

  1. Lenore Allen says:

    John 1:3-4
    all things were made by him, and without him was not anything made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.

    This is talking about Yahweh Elohim who is our creator and we are made of his substance. But we still need Yahshua

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